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Subject: R-OBSERVATIONS 2 Part 1
by rickcosmos (a.k.a. Richard DePersio)
CONSTITUTION: Commerce Clause: The United States Congress shall have the right "to regulate
commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."
Necessary and Proper Clause: "the congress shall have Power to make all
Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers
and all other Powers vested by the Constitution in the government of the United States, or in
any department or office thereof."
These clauses were controversial and Hamiltion and Monroe were there main proponents and Patrick Henry there main opponent. The Hamilton group was called Federalist (it would become a Party a few years after the Constitution was ratified as would Henry's anti-Federalist group - it became the Democratic-Republican Party. Today, we use the terms liberal and conservative in politics and liberal and constructional in law. the Federalist Papers were largely written by Hamilton (51)sections, Madison (29), John Jay (5) and 3 were a collaboration of Hamilton/Madison to encourage citizens and, especially, their state representatives to ratify the Constitution and to interpret the Constitution to a degree. (By the way, Madison largely wrote the Constitution). There are those who falsely maintain that the federalists like progressives and liberals later favored a big and powerful federal government and the Henry and Jefferson were like the constructionists of today. The Federal Courts use the Federalists Papers and the writings of other Founding Fathers,especially, Jefferson. Their official papers more so then their unofficial ones. Their The Big Three! Progressive and, later, liberal lawyers and judges often ignore the Constitution and the other writings of the Founding Father's. The Federalist didn't want the federal government to take on new powers.If they returned via a time machine they'd be appalled that there are now 14 Departments and 1000 agencies and commissions. They would say: Why is there a Department of Education and Agriculture and a Food and Drug Administrations etc. - shouldn't these matters be the province of the states" - they might not object to general revenue sharing and block grants from the federal government being given to the states for things like education but they would object to the state playing a role in education. When our country was founded there were 4 major departments and less then 10 agencies to carry out the powers granted to the federal government by the Constitution - all our Founding Daddies agreed on this. Where they disagreed on was the creation a few more agencies. The biggest example: a National
Bank. The Federalists argued that the Constitution justified the creation of the Department
of the Treasury, although, it didn't directly say so - it was strongly implied by certain powers
granted to the Federal government. A Department of the Treasury implied the need for a
National Bank to help carry out it's duties and responsibilities. Henry, Jefferson and other
anti-federalists said "nay":strongly implied to implied is too far removed from Constitution.
The Federalist didn't favor the creation of a Department of Agriculture or even think about forming such a department because the Constitution gave no powers to the federal government involving farming. Liberal say that the Constitution states the federal government should be concerned with the general welfare of the people - a vague statement if I ever heard one. As a result, we went from 4 major Departments and about 7 agencies (By the way the National Bank was actually shut down in the 1870's to return in modified and expanded form as the Federal Reserve Bank in the 1919 (? - I don't have time too check!) to 14 major departments and a 1000 agencies between the 1880's and today with most of the growth during Republican (I ashamed) Theodore Roosevelt (progressive philosophy not a member of the Progressive Party and Democrats Wilson and Franklyn Roosevelt (progressives) and Democrat Johnson (liberal).
BILL OF RIGHTS: Amendment 10: "Powers of the States and the People - The powers not
delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved
to the States respectively, or to the people."
By the way, after the Civil War, the U.S. Supreme Court imposed nearly all of the
Bill of Rights on the States. No problems: most states already had those rights, of course,
they hadn't applied to the slaves in most places.
What happened mainly between about 1880 to 1921, 1933-1953, 1963-1969? Most new
departments and agencies were created, tons of new regulations and big budgets - in two words: Big Government! Democrats were presidents then and the biggest of the big growth took place under Franklyn Roosevelt (president '33-'45). Hey! What about 21-33, 53-61 (61-63 difficult
to explain - liberals perceive Kennedy as the greatest President based on a mere 2 years and
the perfect liberal - - facts that they choose to ignore indicate otherwise and the idea
that Nixon ('69-74) was a conservative). ADDed! 21-33, 53-61, Republicans were president
government grew very little and when Coolidge was president (23-29) shrunk. Carter moderate
growth; Reagan major shrinkage during first term and grew during second - left at same level
as when arrived - - no growth; Bush 1 - small growth; Clinton - first term moderate growth and
second no growth thanks to a Republican Congress; Bush 2 - big growth, especially, in
spending and national security regulations.
End result: Big-Time Growth thanks to 2 Reps and 4 Dems especially, donkeys -
WILSON (did you know that he segregated the military), ROOSEVELT and JOHNSON and elephant BUSH. COMMERCE CLAUSE/NECESSARY AND PROPER CLAUSE BECAME UNCONSITUTIONALLY EXPANDED AND APPLIED BLIMP- SIZE while amendment 10 requires a microscope to see!
Let's put it in perspective: all the documents (laws, budgets,executive orders, federal
regulations and judicial decisions) made during periods of large and extra large growth would
now fill a large house. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED SINCE OBOMA BECAME PRESIDENT WOULD FILL A MANSION!!!
(to be continued -if freedom of speech survives!).
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