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           ...THROWN by OBAMA to CELEBRATE HIS MURDER of NASA

                                           by Richard DePersio                                                                      (All comsats listed and described at groups.google.com/group/rickcosmos-eclectic)

(WHAT CAN YOU... 

and  follow it up with a party at the Capital Building for the purpose of laughing at

congressional logic. BYOB! You will need it when you realize that it is dangerous not funny

regarding AMERICA's SCIENTIFIC-TECHNOLOGICAL-ECONOMIC FUTURES not to

mention our NATIONAL PRESTIGE!.Let's do a quick review. The Bush Plan: Ending the Space Shuttle Program in 2011 and    ......DO TO STOP...

the ISS (International Space Station) in 2015. Replacing the Space Shuttle with the Orion

Spacecraft atop the Ares 1 Rocket in 2013 (due to under-funding goal was pushed back to

2015). The Orion Spacecraft would take astronauts to the Space Station, to the Moon in

2020 and Mars in 2035. The Ares 1 would be used by Orion to get to the Space Station and

to the Moon. The Ares 5 Heavy-Lifter would be able to lift as much weight to earth orbit as the

Space Shuttle and be unmanned. It would lift the propulsion system needed to go to Mars

and beyond and be operational by 2016.      ...THE...

The Obama Plan canceled the Shuttle in 2010 too but extended lifetime of Space Station to

2020. Orion, Ares 1, Moon Base, Ares 5 all scrubbed. SpaceX's Falcon 9 would bring

cargo to Space Station beginning in early 2012 and astronauts in early 2014. The private

sector would be responsible for earth to earth orbit and back. A Heavy-lifter would be NASA's

job and be ready by 2016 but it wouldn't be Ares 5. Mind you, he wants to terminate

Constellation Program (Orion, Ares 1, Altair - moon lander - Ares 5) on which we already

spent $9 billion - it would go down a presidential black hole! He favors the commercialization

of space - a capitalistic idea? We subsidize the Oil and Agricultural Industries, Fannie

and Freddie and, now, the auto industry, commercial and investment banks - all

uncapitalistic and wrong! Obama had to give SpaceX an additional $1 billion and it

sill won't meet it's 2012 and 2014 goals!      .....MADNESS..

.

We don't object to SpaceX using NASA facilities for R & D and picking the brains of NASA

experts. The House Plan calls for spending less on SpaceX then Senate - both

less then Obama wants - - both too much in our opinion. Private industry is at it's best

when their is a minimum of government interference not when their heavily regulated and

worse funded and controlled by BIG GOV. The House Plan calls for developing space

hardware largely based on Orion, Ares ! and Ares 5 while the Senate to a lesser degree.

Both do away with Moon landings leading to a base and extend lifetime of Space

Station to 2020. PUTTING THE CART AHEAD of the HORSE... The Senate gives equal priority to Heavy-lifter and NASA vehicle for earth to earth orbit to earth by 2016 (and, perhaps, eventually,system will be part of beyond earth orbit mission system for 2025).Both are under-budgeted. House is under-budgeted but gives priority to returning NASA to earth orbit and spreading money over more years - Heavy-Lifter by 2019 - - for what purpose if Space Station ends in 2020 and we don't plan to leave earth orbit until 2025!

..SEE...

THE ELEPHANT in the ROOM...Let's assume SpaceX can succeed in spite of gov 

interference. It can't do cargo by '12 and crew by '14. We are going to have to pay

Russia an astronomically large price tag to take astronauts to our Space Station - we

paid bulk of the cost! The HUMILIATION!!! We BEAT THEM in MOON RACE, we will

have to beg them for a ride on their timetable! The Three Space Shuttles have been

certified Flight-Capable for over 75 more missions a piece. Spend less on SpaceX -

subsidizing is socialistic and don't pay Russia to carry us like a baby. NASA

shouldn't be grounded.WE are the GREATEST!!! With the money saved, we can afford

7 to 10 Shuttle Missions over next three years and, perhaps, 12 to 15 over next six

years. $3 billion additional can get us Ares 1 by between 2014 and 2016 ending Shuttles Remember: NASA is unique gov program; NASA gives a $7 return in the form of pure science and spin-offs/applications (technology)on each dollar it's budgeted and creates jobs unlike

Obama(NASA and private companies that contract with NASA have begun issuing

pink slips.because Obama is spending tax-payer money irresponsibly and UNCONSTITUTIONALLY!!! TWENTY-SIX BILLION to states to save jobs of teachers and police because governors and mayors are afraid of unions and won't act to cut wasteful spending. Spend like Obama until the dollar is worthless!

He's A.D.D..-ing.You know the rest of Citizen's Reporter's Plan regarding Moon, NERVA,

X-37B.            ...BELOW...

Ladies and gentlemen, What makes more sense: extending Shuttle for 4 to 6 years or 

giving money to Russia and subsidizing another private company. What makes more 

sense: Saving as much of Ares 1 and 5 as possible or staring from scratch like

Obama wants to do?Recently, NASA announced that for $2.5 billion it can have an    Upgraded New-Version Shuttle that can lift only half as much as present Shuttle but be capable of lifting as much by 2020I It would have the large external fuel tank and two solid booster rockets but instead of portion of Shuttle that looks like a space plane, it would     have something similar to Orion/Ares 1which some day can be part of beyond earth orbit missions.NASA builds on existing technology which is a cost-effective.

and safe thing to do while it develops new technologies.

Shuttle by 2016 which can lift only half as much as present Shuttle.

EXTEND LIFESPAN OF SHUTTLE FOR FOUR TO SIX YEARS AND SAVE, MODIFY

and BUILD ON WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THUS FAR IN 

CONSTELLATION PROGRAM.... TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE....TIME IS RUNNING 

OUT. YOU MUST PHONE AND/OR LEAVE A MESSAGE AT WEBSITE OF 9 KEY

MEMBERS OF CONGRESS - EVERYDAY THIS WEEK, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY.TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY - - - ONE TO THREE PER DAY.

SENATE PHONE: 202-224-3121; HOUSE PHONE: 202-226-7200 GET THE PHONE
NUMBERS OF YOUR TWO U.S. SENATORS AND ONE US. CONGRESSMAN. 

 USUALLY, SENATE OPERATOR WILL SUPPLY ALL INFO. YOU NEED NOT KNOW THEIR NAMES BUT YOU MUST KNOW STATE IN WHICH YOU LIVE!

TWO KEY PLAYERS: SHELBY (R; ALABAMA) and NELSON (D; FLORIDA). 

(www-?)Nelson.senate.gov/public/    PHONE: 202-224-5744; SHELBY: 202-224-5274.

Conrad, Greg, Sprant, Ryan

NASA RESTORED AS MAIN SCIENTIFIC/TECHNOLOGICAL ENGINE OF ECONOMY.

NEITHER PLAN IS GOOD BUT HOUSE BETTER THEN SENATE PLAN. NEITHER PLAN
PREVENTS AMERICAN HUMILIATION!!! WE WILL NO LONGER BE NUMBER ONE
IN SPACE AND THAT WILL DO GREAT DAMAGE TO OUR PRESTIGE AND OUR ECONOMY!!!!

Fwd: NEW SPACE PROPOSAL

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Subject: Fwd: NEW SPACE PROPOSAL

by Richard DePersio (groups.google.com/group/rickcosmos-eclectic to our Cyber-Friend

/group/sci.space.policy

 There are members of NASA and of Congress who are proposing

replacing Ares 1 with a new version of the Space Shuttle. Like the present Space Shuttle

the new version would have virtually the same two solid booster rockets (as would Ares 1)

and the large external fuel tank. Instead of the space plane portion, it would have a

cylinder with an Orion spacecraft on top. This smaller version would likely carry 3

astronauts instead of 4 as would the Altair Moon Lander if New Moon Program isn't

canceled. The proposal also calls for the Ares 5 Heavy-Lifter or a version of it in order to

visit Mars or an asteroid. The 3-man Orion could dock with Space Station or with Altair

landing on moon. Both crafts would be about one-third smaller then originally planned

but one-third larger then Apollo and LM. The Mars Orion would still have to be capable of

carrying 6 astronauts.   

We at CR believe that this would be acceptable to us Ares 1 fans. There is a major

drawback though - there always is: It won't be operational for 3 to 4 years. Again, we

insist that present Shuttle (each of which have been certified capable for over 75 flights 

apiece) be extended for 2 to 4 years. Alternative: Humiliation; NASA grounded for 3 years

or more. We would be dependent on Russia (who we beat in the Moon Race) and/or

China (our Banker) to talk us to our Space Station - we paid bulk of the cost - on their

schedule - - to add insult to injury, Russia has already made it clear that they are going to

charge us an astronomical price tag! Obama doesn't care about U.S. embarrassment

and is hell-bent on laying off Shuttle, Orion, Ares and Altair workers.

We stated previously that we were willing to forgo Moon Base due to price tag and offered

original proposals. Three moon missions each lasting 5 to 7 weeks visiting lunar arctic

and antarctic; 4 to 7 follow-up missions if justified by the 3 missions. One of the reasons,

President Bush wanted Americans to return to the moon was to test components,

equipment, experiments and procedures (as well as, tests on the ground, in earth orbit,

en route to moon) for a Mars mission in 2035. We can still due that and without a base.

We can do it during 3 or more moon missions. Hopefully, lunar mining will be encouraged

by what's learned during those missions. We shouldn't muck-up a pristine area for mining

(this is for the sake of environmental wackos, of course, they'll demand no mining). Joint

Project: NASA and Private Sector beginning in 2025 (if missions between 2020-2023 justify

it), geologists, metallurgists, surveyors and support teams explore an area scientifically and

for the purpose of determining if it is a potentially economically viable area for mining. The

private sector takes it from there. They will construct mining camps.

Additional Proposal: We might do the above plus built a small NASA Base if practical to use

moon water for service module: water for drinking (as well as, recycled urine) splitting water

for oxygen for breathing and hydrogen for nuclear thermal (see our proposals in four articles at

www.rickaddsite.blogspot.com) rocket engine. Launching Orion with it's service module from

moon orbit would be a lot cheaper then launching from earth's stronger gravitational field. We                    propose that The Heavy-Lifter might not be needed or we can make due with a smaller, less                    powerful one to bring transfer module to lunar orbit with just enough hydrogen to get there. We can

launch it to lunar orbit  where the Orion Command and Service Module is already in lunar orbit.

 Altair and unmanned crafts can bring water to service module and transfer module from lunar

surface - cheaper then lifting it from earth's surface.

The transfer module can use Ares 5 or 2 liquid  (safer then solid; H aboard transfer module)                       booster rockets and large external fuel tank.

We also proposed a mini-Orion or and operational-version of AF X-37B - both of which would be

easier to move and maneuver from the ground then as regular satellite - using heavy-lifter to park

it near our GPSs to temporarily move them if they became a target during a war or replace them

when necessary as a backup.

Or, Obama Plan to place "NASA in a Casket," give SpaceX unrealistic timetable and make Russia

a super-power again! (Russia orders Obama to shrink Bush Missile Shield, Obama obeys, Russia

announces that it has unstoppable missile; Russia declares that it has fighter jet as good as our

best fighter - the F-22, Obama orders production to stop on F-22s).

Fwd: Facebook | NASA's New Direction

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Fwd: THREE LAUNCH PADS TO THE FUTURE

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EDITOR'S NOTE: OUR SLOGAN IS: "FAIR and BALANCED."                                                

A POST FROM THE HONORABLE OPPOSITON FOLLOWS WHICH IN TURN IS                             FOLLOWED BY THREE MORE SPECIFIC POSTS FROM OUR SIDE.

Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 3:24 am
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1) SENATE Sub-Committee on Justice-Commerce-Science (that's logical!)

2) HOUSE   Committee on Science-Technology                                                                                                                                                          3) CITIZEN REPORTER groups.google.com/group/rickcosmos-eclectic                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 1)A: 3 more Space Shuttle Flights                                                                                                                                       B: Orion Continues                                                                                                                                         C:  Ares 1 cancelled                                                                                                                                       D:   Development begins on a new Heavy-Lifter somewhat based on Ares 5                                                    begins next, completed 2016                                                                                                                                                E: Taxpayer money spent on private/commercial sector development of                                                          earth-to-orbit-to-earth capability - $6 billion over 8 years                                                                                     F:  Moon Base Cancelled                                                                                                                                 G:  Money spent on NASA developing new technologies reduced                                                                                             2)A: 2 more Space Shuttle flights                                                                                                                     B:  Orion continues                                                                                                                                        C: Ares 1 may or may not be cancelled                                                                                                            D: Development of Heavy-Lifter largely-based on Ares 5 begins next year,                                                      completed by 2016                                                                                                                                         E: Taxpayer money for private sector - $4.5 over 8 years                                                                                       F: Moon Base cancelled                                                                                                                                 G: Money spent on developing new technologies less then Senate                                                                                Sub-Committee                                                                                                                                                                                       3) A: Space Shuttle program extended for 2 to 4 years                                                                                  B: Orion continues                                                                                                                                     C:  Ares 1 continues                                                                                                                                  D:  Ares 5/Saturn S-N Combo More money spent developing new                                                    technologies, including, nuclear thermal propulsion and nuclear-generator                                                       E:  Aid to private sector - less then $2 over 3 years for NASA consultation                                                    and use of NASA facilities                                                                                                                           F:  Moon Base cancelled; 4 missions to Moon in 2020 and 2021 Lunar 'arctic' and                                   'antarctic'  regions and 3 to 5 additional missions if justified by the 4 missions                                             Plans subject to change as they go through congressional process. We must continue our plan to                save NASA  with monthly phone call and/or message left at website of the 9 key members of               Congress; info available at www.rickaddsite.blogspot.com, rickscisite.blogspot.com,                              YouTube: Rickaddsite. Each of the 3 shuttles are certified for over 75 more missions. It's a                      disgrace for U.S. to be dependent on Russia (whom we beat in Moon Race and have made it               abundantly clear that they are going to charge us an arm and a leg; what if they don't comply with our          scheduling  and scientific 'window' requirements) and/or China (our banker!) to take us to and from our        Space Station - international my foot, we paid bulk of the cost! - for 4 to 6 years while we're                   grounded; important science to be done at Lunar poles; Ares 1 can get Orion or modified X-37B                     can get us to Space Station in 2 to 4 years; spend more to built on existing technology and create                new technologies for economy's sake. Obama wants the two top priorities of the National

Aeronautics and Space Administration to be: 1) Making Muslims feel good about themselves:

their historic contributions in science, math., engineering (International Psychotherapy and

2) Green 'Hockey Stick' pseudo-science. Obama learned science from scientific illiterate Al Gore!